Back in Business: Phillies Baseball Is Fun Again

The Philadelphia Phillies are finally starting to look like the team everyone expected. We talk about the hot streak, the bats waking up, the pitching settling in, and why the vibes around Philly baseball suddenly feel completely different. Plus, we go around Major League Baseball, breaking down the hottest teams, biggest disappointments, early surprises, and everything else happening across the league right now.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Hello and welcome back to season two, episode number three of two average guys. Today we're gonna have a little bit more upbeat of a conversation about the Phillies since our last episode, and we're gonna kind of recap what's going on across the league about a month and a half into the season. So, first we'll start with the Phillies. Last episode we were super negative, they deserved it, but recently they've been playing really well, and there's a little bit of positivity rolling around Philadelphia. Sawyer, I'll let you kind of take away what you have.

SPEAKER_01 0:45

Yeah, I mean, I think we should start firing our manager every year because I mean it once it happens, we decide to start figuring it out again. I mean, it's shown like the past one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. Eleven games we have or we have eight wins the past 11 games. Like, we're doing a great job doing it. I mean, we're hitting the ball now. Like Bryce Harper has looked a lot better. I mean, today he did come out of the game early due to a migraine. Hope he's better, but he'll be fine. Just minor stuff. But I mean, every the bats are alive now. Brandon Marsh has been our hottest hitter. Loved watching March like Marsh lately. Uh Crawford hit his first home run last night. That was really cool to see. But I mean, the the only downfall right now is my opinion, is the staff right now. The starting rotation has not been it for us this year recently, and I think that's the biggest thing. But ever since we fired Rob or loved him, he has we have been on fire with the bats, so can't complain.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

Yeah, I don't I mean, I don't know what Don Mattingly did taking over as a coach after Rob got fired, but the Phillies went on a seven, eight-game win streak.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Uh no, it wasn't an eight game. They they've only had four games, but no, they won like eight. They won like what I said. Uh how much did I say? They won and they won eight and eleven games.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

They went on a they went on a win streak.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

No, that it's four. Okay, four. Was it only four? Yes, the most they had in they had four, lost one, four, lost two, then won today.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Uh oh, they were like, yeah, they were like eight and one in like Han's first nine games or something like that. That's the stat I saw. Yeah. Which was I mean, that's really awesome that a team. I don't know why Rob had to get fired for the team to wake up. Yeah. Um, I don't think the manager plays that big of a part. I mean, these guys are major league players, they know how to play the game, but maybe that's just kind of the kick in the butt that they needed to figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Yeah, it's a big mental thing. I mean, baseball, that's what baseball is. I mean, yeah, sometimes like you need that push to maybe get a guy going, and that's what I guess did. But sadly, I loved Rob, but I don't know, it's been working.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

I think a lot of guys are performing. There's a couple guys that are performing better than expected, a lot of guys that are performing where we expected, and then a few that are still below average, but um, you know, have a chance to pick it up. We're only 40 games into the season. We still have three-fourths of of the year to go. Um, Trey, if we go through the order, I think Trey's underperforming. I think he's he should be playing way better. Or is he batting right now? Four for five tonight.

SPEAKER_01 3:35

What was Trey batting right now overall? 244.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Um, I need at least two seven. Shorber's batting 213, but he's got fifth or 14 home runs.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

League leading. No, no, NL NL leading, NL leading. No, league leader.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

We'll get to this later, but Aaron Judge and Munataka Murakami goes. But we'll talk about that a little bit later. Bryce Harper, I think he's playing very, very well.

SPEAKER_01 4:04

I saw the stat the other day. Um, at this time or around this time in 2021 is MVP year, identical stats. Like identical.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

So I mean I didn't I didn't see that, but it was forever ago.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

I forgot it was like a week, I think it was last week when I saw or like a couple days ago when I saw it.

SPEAKER_00 4:23

I was like, oh, don't don't get me excited, but and I mean Adoles Garcia, he's I guess a little bit underperforming. He's hitting 246 weeks. Um, I expect a couple more home runs. He's only got four, but you know, I I think he'll be fine. I think that I think I was a decent addition, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Okay, his glove is amazing. Yeah, I think it's fantastic. He does like even if he's not hitting a great, he always is in right field throwing bullets. Like watching him play right field is so fun, and I love it.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

And then, of course, Marsh's 333, super overperforming. Yes, great playing like an all-star, honestly. Insane. Um, Bohm's 177, super underperforming. Oh my gosh. But he did have two bombs and go three for four tonight with four RBIs. So hopefully, maybe we'll see it turn turn around a little bit. No after his home run, Philly gave him a standing ovation. Gimme Sosa. Philly gave him a standing ovation. You know how that worked last time.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

Metre, you mean not him.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Um Stotts hitting 212, underperforming.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Hey, whoa, whoa, he's been on fire lately. Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

He's under electric. He's hitting 212. Yeah, I guess. But he's been lately he's been electric. Lately, he's been good, but he's underperforming. Yes, I guess. Um Crawford's 281. I think that's really, really good for looking. I think he's looked really good. JT's 260, that's fine. I'm alright with that. Edmundo's 258. You know what? For how little he plays, I think if he played every day, that'd be higher. I still like it in the Sosa. Um, and then the rest of the guys, you know, Marshawn is not good. Stubbs looks alright. He's batting 250. Um Felix Reyes, who's kind of been like a utility guy in the outfield, and he played, he came into first base when Harper wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Um, I'm not sure he looks like well, I liked him like for a bit, like before uh Rob got fired. He was like mashing when he first came up. I mean, yeah, his first hit was a home run, but uh well no, like the next couple games he had like a I think he got hit in all of them.

SPEAKER_00 6:33

Yeah, I mean he's got five hits, so I don't know. He's five for 36. He's batting.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

Oh, so never mind. Okay. His first couple games are great. I remember watching it then. I didn't I stopped watching it.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

But I mean, that's really all of our all of our hitting. I think they're oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

I we've really stepped it up. We've really stepped it up, though. Like compared to before, I'm very happy.

SPEAKER_00 6:53

But for the most part, they're doing their job, but our pitching outside of Sanchez is yes, horrible.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Just not I say pen, I meant rotation.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Um Sanchez looks really, really good. Last outing was like seven, no, eight innings, ten K's. I don't even remember. It was good though.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

He I mean, I we we shouldn't even talk about Sanchez. He's been amazing.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

Eight innings, three hits, ten K's. Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

Let's go to the man of the hour, Jesus Lazardo.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Yeah, he has a five nine eight ERA and looks abysmal. Looks really, really bad. Um going along with that, Nola has a five-one four ERA and Painter has a six eight nine ER. Yeah, like I get it, Painter. You're a rookie, but dude, almost a seven ERA is not gonna play. I mean, that got Taiwan Walker DFA.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

Yeah, but like, yeah, I mean, Painter was very we have so much money in Painter. We have so much money in Painter that he's definitely if he doesn't figure it out, this would be a huge loss. I remember when we first got him, I looked forward to, and he's been so disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Like, I don't know, he always even in the miners look like he gave up more runs than I wanted from a backup. Yeah, I agree. The next Zach Wheeler, but like he looks speaking of Zach Wheeler, looks good.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

I know. Like, okay, of course, we're not gonna get Scion Caliber Zach.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

Right, it's not Zach Wheeler of last year. It's still great. It's a very good, usable right now. Our number two, Zach Wheeler.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

Yeah, I agree completely.

SPEAKER_00 8:32

I mean and I'm super, super happy with that. He's got a 3-1-2 ERA. That's you know what? For someone that just came off of surgery and all the health issues that he was dealing with, yes, have a day, Zach Wheeler.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

I mean, yeah, I mean, he two wins, or he is one win, but I mean, he only four runs led up in two appearances, 12 12 innings, like now he's up to 17 innings.

SPEAKER_00 9:02

He's got three starts. Yeah, I mean, he's got two quality starts out of three starts. 17 innings, 11 hits.

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Oh, yeah, he pitched. Wait.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

He's got he's got below a one whip and three starts. That's oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

I mean, uh I where where were you where's his third start? Yeah, same. Where's his third? Where's his third start?

SPEAKER_00 9:24

ESPN has him with three games pitched, three games started. He's one and oh, or he's two and one, or yeah, he's one and no.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Oh, okay, in April. Uh I forgot he pitched in April. I thought that was I was like, what am I looking at? But yeah, no, we're good. Yeah, he's been really good. Okay, yeah, three starts, yeah. 17, 6 or 6.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

Yeah, I mean I'm even willing to say the bullpen's been alright.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Oh, yeah. I mean, sure, like right now, like uh why am I blanking? Duran's like he's iffy. I mean, yeah, he just came off the IR or IL not too long ago. His first outing back, he did walk the bases loaded, and then walk in a run. Oh, yeah, he got out of it. He got out of it only one, which was very great. But I mean, yeah, he's gonna come back, not worried about anyone. I mean, everyone, I mean, still not a fan of Keller. Very disappointed in him. Yeah, he's been. I I was so excited that we got him. Flamethrower, another righty, strong righty. It's been so disappointing out of the pen.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Yeah, I think Kirk Ring looks really good. Uh I mean, yeah. He hasn't been in a high leverage situation, but I think he's looked really, really good.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

He shouldn't be. He should not be in a high leverage situation.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

He shouldn't be he's gotta be, you gotta work him into high leverage situations. That's a guy that's gotta come out of the bullpen in the high leverage situations. Yeah, I get it, but like uh he's a guy that's gonna have to come out in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Yeah, but you gotta do it very slowly 100%. Great now is not the time to risk it. We need wins, we need to keep going.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

I'm not saying throw him in a one-run game right now, but I'm saying you get a game that's three, four runs, you gotta put him in there. He's gotta get it. You gotta get he's gotta get back to O'Reilly and Kirkring. I mean, I know the dude made the season ending error, but I don't care. Get him on the mound, get him fielding bunts, like get this dude moving.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah, agree completely.

SPEAKER_00 11:11

Um Duran Duran's Duran. Don't wave any. We got two position players that have already thrown. Uh Stubsy's out there with a zero ERA. That's pretty good, damn. Well, his one inning pitched. I mean, no, I think I think overall, for how bad we talked about the team last year or last episode, overall, I'm gonna say they're doing all right.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Oh, yeah, I'm very glad in the world. Yeah, I agree. I mean, yeah, we really turned it around, figured it out, hitting a lot better. Penn's been great. It's just it's just a rotation.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yeah, it's literally pitching. I mean, we haven't had a starting pitcher go more than what did Nola go today, four and two-thirds. Yeah, he went four and two-thirds. Before that, I mean, yesterday Lazardo got taken out after three innings. He couldn't get it, he went out and pitched a fourth, but couldn't get out of that. Before that, um Payner got rocked around, three and two-thirds.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Six runs and one inning.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Yeah, inning?

SPEAKER_01 12:25

How many? Six, yeah. It was horrible.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

So our last like quality start was was was Wheeler three games ago. Yeah, six and the third.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Against the A's, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

Yeah, A's are good.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

A's are I love watching the A's, dude. That was a fun series to watch.

SPEAKER_00 12:43

I don't know. I need the Phillies to step it up. Um coming up, you have one more game against Colorado. Need to win. Yes, yeah, win the series. There's only Mound of Mars. Sanchez on the bump.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

I guess Sanchez was about to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

Gotta be a win. And then we have a series with the Red Sox who have been severely underperforming. I really really need to win that series. Yes, we need in Fenway. I don't care. Win the series. I agree completely. Um, then you got a tough matchup with the Pirates, who are surprisingly good.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Dude, oh, I'm not looking in. Well, projected is Nola Sanchez Wheeler, and then oh, we're gonna fade. It's gonna be a Wheeler versus Skeens. It's Wheeler versus Skeens? You see, I mean that's how that's what that's what it says on the schedule right now. That'll be fun.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

That'll be fun.

SPEAKER_01 13:30

Yes, that's gonna be really oh oh wait, no. Oh, I really hope I want Ranger to pitch against us. No, I don't wait. Do we want Ranger?

SPEAKER_00 13:41

I I love Ranger to I think Ranger would genuinely destroy our team.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Okay, Ranger's been very disappointing this year.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

Ooh, his last two starts have been electric.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

Yeah, but overall, overall. He's been I mean, recently, yes, I agree, but overall he's been eh. Um he's got a 277 ERA. What's his whip? Must have gone down last time I looked at it. 0.95. Okay, take whatever back. Last time I looked at it, it was a lot higher, but yeah, never.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

Yeah, but he just had two starts where he went like he went eight innings with two hits and then eight innings with one hit in um in April.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Yeah, that's a dog. Uh yeah. I mean, I yeah, I don't know. I I I don't know. I love watching.

SPEAKER_00 14:27

I I love watching um he's watching four of his last five appearances. He hasn't given up or run.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Is it away? Are they is it all away in Boston? Oh I'm not hunting at all.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

Yeah, we're not that way. Yeah, I think I think Ranger would dominate. Oh, it's probably undecided because Ranger. Did he just get put on the IL? Or is he coming back from the injury? He's day-to-day right now, I think. Actually, he's on my fantasy baseball team, so that's the only reason I know that. Fantasy baseball's fake. Start after like four innings with a hamstring issue.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

No.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

So this is what the recent news says. Red Sox interim manager Chad Tracy said Friday that Suarez's next start will come sometime, will come next week sometime in the Philly series.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

That'll be fun.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

I mean, um uh Ranger might go Ranger might go seven innings with ten strikeouts against his former team, or we're just gonna kill him. I don't think we will.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

I really don't think I think it's one or the other, personally. I think he's either going to literally like no hit us, or he's going or we are going to kill him.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

I think he knows exactly how to pitch our guys.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

Yeah, and we know exactly how he pitches, but he's crafty.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

If a pitcher knows how to pitch the team and he's on, that's gonna win over a team.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Yes, I agree completely. It's a lot harder to hit than to pitch.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Uh Ranger, Ranger could really dice.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I just think it's one or the other person. That's just me. But I mean, yeah, I think he will do very good though.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

That'll definitely be fun to watch.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

I think he'll I I I I'm not gonna want to watch it, dude.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

I love I would I love Ranger Sware.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Bro, yeah, but he's pitching against the Phillies. Like, I love Ranger. Like, I thought he said this. I thought he said this. Like, I when I'm up in Boston, I want to go watch Ranger pitch and be the only guy in a Phillies jersey. Like, I said this, bro.

SPEAKER_00 16:27

I want like I love Ranger. To me, that's a win-win because if Ranger wins, I'm happy, and if the Phillies win, I'm happy.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Yeah, that's good. Okay, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

I'm I hope Ranger goes seven innings of one hit ball with 10 strikeouts, but the Phillies win the game.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Yeah, it's that that's a good one. Uh yeah, that would be electric. Like uh, just listen to these pitchers though for uh the Red Sox series. Starting with Wheeler, not bad. Then Painter and Lazardo.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Painter and Lazardo, great, so we might lose the series.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Yeah, and Sonny Gray's pitching third game. I don't know, Bellow is Bellow. Who's Bellow?

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Brian Bellow.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Yeah, we should kill him. 1-9-3.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

Has not looked good.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Yeah, horrible. We should kill him.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

To be fair, that game with Painter and Bellow might be 14-12.

SPEAKER_01 17:16

Oh, yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a hit parade. But uh, I mean, I mean, I have to really think of it. This is one two, I mean, should well not not not anymore, but best rotation in baseball, the Red Sox, probably.

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Whoa. They're up there. Brochet has not looked good.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Yeah, but still still.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

I don't know if I would say on paper, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

On paper, yeah. Let's say on paper wise, yes, on paper.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

Brochet has uh over a six ERI.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

Yeah, it's been disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 17:53

Their best pitcher is Ranger Suarez. Shout out Phil's their best pitcher is Ranger Suarez, and it's I guess it's semi-close with um Keneally early, but um I mean crochet's got a 6.3 and Brian Bellow's got a 744, so not that. So rough crochet's not gonna be in that Cy Young contention. Neither is Tarek Scoobyl on the I. Did you see his worth dropped 40 million dollars after he went on the I. 40. You know how um you know how he was in arbitration and they gave him like 40 million dollars or whatever?

SPEAKER_01 18:44

What uh for uh who are we talking about again? Say it.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Tyreek Scuba?

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

You know he was in the arbitration, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

Yeah, he's the highest arbitrary he has the highest arbitration contract of all time.

SPEAKER_00 18:53

Right, he ended up winning for like 41 million dollars.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

Was it 41? I look he thought it was in the yeah, four forty-three, yeah. It's somewhere in the I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

His is I read somewhere. Maybe his his arbitration or his trade value was like 41 million dollars. After he won the IL, it dropped to one one million dollars.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

I mean, he is out for the rest of the season. That is kind of no, he's not. I thought he dude, his surgery. Hey, he's out for at least two months.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

It's just to remove loose bodies, it's not yeah, but I thought it was out for like two months. That's not the season, yeah. I guess, but it's I think he's only on IL 15. I mean, I'm sure he'll get put on IL 60, but he's out for more than 60 days. I think I'm not sure he's gonna be out for all that long. Someone else just had loose body surgery. Um, there was a pitcher that just had that.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

Two to three months.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Right, he'll be back before the end of the season, but that kills the Cy Young chances, and that really, really hurts his trade value.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Optimal is or yeah, no, no, actually, yeah, never mind. Initial estimates, early estimates suggest two to three. Yeah, but I mean it's uh thank god it's nothing crazy serious, because I love watching Scoobyl, who doesn't best pitcher in the best most dominant pitcher in the past, one of the most dominant pitchers probably in the past five to eight years.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

But that's really really interesting because now you have an AL Cy Young without Scoobyl and without Crochet. Yeah. Uh hear me out.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Me thinking about a Shohei Cy Young MVP. Um I I think no, yeah, uh Yamamoto would get over him. Oh wait, yeah. Why did I go to NL? Sorry, that just came into my head. Sorry, that came into my head. Who's the who's uh the Angels guy right now? I mean, he he had one.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Jose Soriano. He's been great. He's actually his last two starts have not been that bad.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Yeah, against he hit a bad against the White Sox, he had like six runs.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

I'm telling you who's sneaky inside, not even sneaky, everybody knows he's having a good out or a good year. Davis Martin of the Chicago White Sox. Davis Martin. He's got a 164 ERA over 44 innings pitched with a 1.02 whip. Yeah, that's electric. Also, another guy who's on Cy Young watch in my eyes is Dylan C's.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

You are the biggest hater on Dylan Sees ever.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Cy Young Watch.

SPEAKER_01 21:37

Okay, okay, that's fair. No, no, yeah, I know that's fair, but like I've always loved Dylan Sees.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

I I think he's a very good strikeout pitcher, but I took the stats that said that his ERA is the worst in the AL East by far, and you put him where he's gonna face the AL East the most. I was I was a little, I will own it, I was a little worried that he might not succeed. I'll own it, and I'm wrong. He's been

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Yeah. Second in case with Jacob uh uh Jacob Mizerovsky uh as first was 70.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

I'm not sure it's crazy to say that he is top three pitcher in the AL East. Top three. Not higher than that. He's third.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Who do you have one and two?

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Um one right now for me is Cam Schlettler.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Yeah, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Who has been like just disgusting? Yeah. He just threw again today, so I don't know if his stats are fully updated. 135 ERA over 53 innings pitched.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Fifth and K's in the league, by the way. Also, yep.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

59 strikeouts over 53 innings with a 0.81 whip.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Yeah, he's been he's been discussing. Who's your other one?

SPEAKER_00 23:00

Max Fried.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

That's I had Freed up there too.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

291 ERA over 58 innings with 48 strikeouts and a 0.95 whip. That's um comparable to Cease. I think they I guess you could argue that Cease could be the the two because he has a lower ERA and more strikeouts, but I think Max Fried is probably a better pitcher than Dylan Cease.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Yeah, also I mean, yeah, the Yankees are on a roll.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Yeah, the Yankees look good, and they have a crazy punch with Freed and Schuttler.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, Schuller has the lowest ERA in baseball right now.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

You look at their other starting pitchers, uh Will Warren, he's got a 346 ERA, and Ryan Weathers has a 303. Ryan Brothers has a 303. Talk about some starting pitching, man. Yeah. Do you know off the top of your head is Garrett Cole coming back?

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Uh yeah, he's coming soon. Um he is. I forget. I remember.

SPEAKER_00 24:00

Oh give me a second. I'll look up, I'll look up what his uh what his stats say on ESPN fantasy for when he'll be back.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

But he's in his final stage. And he's uh yeah, he's projected to return to MOB rotation between late May and early June.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

Yeah, his estimated return right now on Fantasy is May 22nd. Yeah. If he comes back anywhere as good as he was, and you got Schlitler, Freed, and Garrett Cole, that would be disgusting. That would be and you have Will Warren and Ryan Weathers behind them. Yeah. Good lord. Yeah. The Yankees might quickly become the AL favorite to make the World Series.

SPEAKER_01 24:47

I mean, aren't they? They are right now, or are they? Not anymore.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay's a wow. It was always sneaky good.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Yeah, random. Like they're like, I mean, yeah, I mean, they didn't make the playoffs, but they're always like decent.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

I feel like for some reason, they're just like I feel like they start super strong and then fall off.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yeah, I mean, Camonero's been Camanero. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

I feel like he's been low-key mid. I don't I don't know. Maybe he's been I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

I saw I saw I saw I saw I forgot. I was watching one of the games he was playing in. He he he I think he hit a bomb.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

And like you got 252 average, 10 bombs, 18 RBIs. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Yeah, that's actually pretty good. For him, that's actually pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

I guess that's all right.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Uh but I I want to go into the stat leaders. All right, I'm auto auto Lopez leading the league with 353. Dog. Like always been sneaky good, but hey, dude's killing it right now. Yeah, and Vargas, yeah. Vargas, I mean, I haven't really watched Vargas that much. I don't know your opinion on it. Has he?

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah, yeah. I saw a staff that he has like a huge hit streak or on base streak or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

He's been good. And then the man, the myth, the legend, way to represent the catcher. Shea Langalier. Love him. 340 as a catcher. Like Shea's amazing. Oh my god. Love it. And then and then Brandon Marsh.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Brandon Marsh is top top five.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

And then, of course, probably the hottest hitter in the past, like start of the season, Andy Paez somehow.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Ben Rice is in the oh, oh, these games updated. Ben Rice is in the game.

SPEAKER_01 26:28

Yeah, I was about to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Andy Paes is in the five now.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Yeah, and then going to home runs. Yeah, Judge, Merikami, Schwerber now, and then I really want to call out all the haters that said Murakami couldn't hit fastballs.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Yes, too. I know no one that said that is watching this podcast. I don't care. You all suck. Murakami is awesome. He's gonna bat 220, but he's gonna hit a bunch of bombs. You can all go over 40 bombs.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Oh, dude, he's killing the baseball 230, 922 OPS.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Like I don't care about his 230 average. He's got 15 bombs.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Yeah, killing it. Okay, going on to runs bad at in CJ Abrams.

SPEAKER_00 27:11

Wow, I didn't even know that. That's actually crazy. On the nationals, yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

I did not know he was like that.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

This is like a random list, low-key. Liam Hicks. Yeah. And then and then we have okay, Matt Olson and Andy Paez. That's not surprising.

SPEAKER_00 27:30

Been having a really good year. Who?

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Matt Olson. Oh, yeah, yeah. Great start to the season. Patting 293, 1000 OPS.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

13 bombs.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Yeah. Fantastic. Low key. MVP watch also.

SPEAKER_00 27:46

Great start. I don't know about that one. He's in the NL. The MVP's always going to be Shohei. Oh, yeah. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

But uh he give bro, he's a 1000 OPS right now. If he keeps his going, he could definitely make a run for it. But yes, it will forever. Yes, it will forever be Shohei.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

He can make a run for second.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

Yep, we got it. Okay, next. Well, hits.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. My goat, Alec Burleson.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

Yeah, not fancy.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

He's on my fantasy team. Shout out my utility spot being Alec Burleson.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

All right, screw that. Hits mainly. I mean, yeah, really hits or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

But yeah, hits are a bunch of guys that hit for average, and then Jordan.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah. Jordon's average is okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

27, 13 bombs. I mean, Jordan's having a historic season.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Yeah, but dude, he's gonna he's always gonna be a top hitter in baseball, but he's just like, I mean, I mean, he's always gonna be that guy. Like, he's a pure hitter. He literally can't field for anything. If you ever put him out there, he's the biggest liability ever, but he can hit. It is crazy how good he is always at hitting. Like, arguably, like, I find it crazy. He hasn't like, I mean, a DH, it's really hard for a DH to win MVP. Well, I mean, Shohei's different, of course. He's a two-way, that's different. I mean, he totally different player, but uh like for players like Jordan, who really are just DH's pure power hitters that also just kill the baseball, that pretty high average, too. Like, for him, he I find it crazy. He like isn't even like top five sometimes for FP. He's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Yeah, I know. I I I agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

Yordon's really, really he's arguably one of the best hitters in the past decade.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

Uh, I don't know if I'd say past okay, past past like five years at least, past five years, easily, yeah, easily one of the best hitters.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

Like, he's been disgusting always. Watching him is fun to watch. And then like yeah, going into stolen bases. I mean, stolen bases or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I am really surprised Chandler Simpson's not at the top of the list.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

For oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

Um shout out Jose Ramirez being second. I mean, that dude is like Chandler system.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Chandler Simpson is fifth. He's tied to fifth.

SPEAKER_00 30:10

He's tied to fifth. Jose Ramirez is like a 30-30 king. Yeah. Like, I don't know how he steals 30 bags, but he just is electric.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

Yeah. And then, yeah, O'Neil Cruz, screw him, don't like him. And then Volpe's replacement is tied for third with uh Neil. And then Bobby Witt, and then um and then Chandler system Simpson are ch are tied for fifth with 12 bags.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

And Chandler's batting over 300. Oh, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Yeah, I agree. But yeah, going into pitching leaders, as you said earlier, Aaron Ashby leading the league with uh seven wins.

SPEAKER_00 30:54

I said that off. I said I don't think I said that off yeah recording. But we were talking about this. Aaron Ashby as a relief pitcher, yeah, as a 7-0 record. I know he's been the start, like he's been kind of the opening guy for uh Mizorowski, I think, for a couple games, or maybe just a couple pitchers, he's been the opening guy. But I mean that means the Brewers are getting runs early in the game, and that's super important.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

I mean, yeah, he he he's always he always shadowed by Ms. though. Miz is disgusting lately, but yeah, and then we're going into Chris Hale. Like, good start to him. Like, hey, had like it Brace had a iffy year last year. Sadly, they're killing all of the NLE's right now. But I mean, yeah, Chris Chris Hale's off to a great start. I mean, yeah, six two, six two. He's better, yeah, six wins, two losses, two two ERA, point eight eight whip. Fantastic out of him.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

I mean, Chris Sale looks really, really good.

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Yeah, then Cam Schuller. We don't need to talk about him. I can never say his last name. Cam Schlitter. Schlitler. I can't. You're good. Move on. Yep. Then we have Gavin Williams on on the Indians. I mean, eh, like five, five-and-two, three, two ER. My bad. Okay. Womp womp. And then, yep, Jose Serrano had a great start to the season. And then I don't know, has been iffy the past couple starts, but I mean, hey, he's looked very good. Not really, not too much to say about the wins. Then going to ERA, of course, Cam uh Schrittler with 135 ERA. Yeah, I keep butchering it. Never gonna get it right.

SPEAKER_00 32:35

You're good. We'll just keep moving on.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Uh then yeah, Davis Martin of the Chicago White Sox with a 5-1-164 ERA. What? What do you mean what? It's the White Sox. That's just what it's funny. It is, but the White Sox 18-21, not bad this year.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

I mean, yeah, below 500, but decent because that division's wide open. I mean, the the yeah the Guardians are first, and they were but I mean they're 21 and 19, they're only two games over 500.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

So that that's a division where if the White Sox get hot, they could yeah, let's not let's not get a hard, let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yeah, you know, if any of you any listeners out there, White Sox fans, not gonna get your hopes up.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

Yeah, have no faith still.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

There's a chance.

SPEAKER_01 33:31

Yep, and then Nick Martinez of Tampa Bay. I mean, yeah, you said Tampa Bay somehow is leading ALEs, which is for some reason Tampa Bay starts strong, and yeah, three three and one, one seventy RA, one one one point zero two whip. I mean, very solid. Then Jose Soreno, like we said or Sorino. Soriano. Oh I can't I keep butchering.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

I'll pronounce the names you say the stats. And then and then Clay Soriano.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Yeah, and then we have Clay Holmes. I could say Clay Holmes at least. I mean, four and three. Mets are been horrible. Horrible. Shout out, Matt. 186 ERA. I mean, hey, on a struggling Mets lineup, Clay Holmes has been performing.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

I would like to go back to Soriano and say up until two starts ago, he had a.24 ERA, which threw six starts. Yes, crazy. Insane. Yeah. I mean, obviously a 0.24 ERA through six starts is insane. But um he has he has a he has given up one earned run to every team that isn't the Chicago White Sox.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

I did see that status. And he's given up six runs.

SPEAKER_00 34:47

And he's given up eight earned runs Chicago White Sox.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

The Chicago White Sox have eight of Jose Soriano's nine earned runs on the year. I mean, this guy could go back down to a sub-1 ERA if he never pitches against the White Sox again. Yeah. Crazy. Like he he's giving he gave up one run, and it was to the Braves, which is the best team of baseball.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Yeah. Record-wise. Yeah. I'd say best team.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Okay, they're the second best. Chicago's actually the best by record. Crazy. But I he he could he could definitely drop to close to a one ERA. Yeah. He never pitches against the White Sox and keeps up the streak he's on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 35:36

I want to see him throw now that he's given up a bunch of uh eight earned runs. I want to see him throw again. Because if he goes back to seven innings of two-hit ball.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

Yeah, that's all you can ask for.

SPEAKER_00 35:48

I mean, give this guy the Cy Young, unless he pitches in Chicago.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

Let's calm down.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Whoa, whoa, whoa. If he has a sub 1-4 ERA, I'm not sure it should be a debate.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

Sure, I guess. I'm not sure. I don't care. I think I think my my overall opinion as a Cy Young, you should be on your team should be good. Like I get Skeens won it, and sure, Skeens was disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

But you only control so much. You can go out there and throw a complete game no hitter and still lose.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Yeah, I know. Yeah, but that's just like that's just like my one thing that I think should be that should be looked at a little more into the sci-ang. Yes, sure, yes. Skeens was disgusting and he deserved it because hey, his team was pathetic last year. Dude, dude went out every game and dealed and like was disgusting all year. Had one of the lowest ERAs, was disgusting. Like he deserved it. But I'm just saying the aspect of your team winning should be a factor in the Cy Young. Like again, yes, they can only control so much, but I think it should be.

SPEAKER_00 37:00

I would agree for MVP. I would not agree for Cy Young.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

I mean, a pitcher can win you a game, but one hit but one hitter can't do that as much as a pitcher can. That's my argument.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

A pitcher can win you a game, but a pitcher can also go out there and throw fantastic. Oh, yeah, they can't lose.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Yeah, they call yeah. That I'm just saying, but I think they can win you. They have they can be more dominant than a hitting lineup. Because again, the hitting lineup can be amazing. Another team can be amazing because your pitcher's not doing great. I mean, again, defense wins championships, blah blah blah. I think we should move on to saves. Mason Miller leading it, not surprising at all. Probably putting off an historic putting being historic in the past two seasons, being disgusting out of the pen.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Lights out historic, historic um no run given up streak. Yes. Sadly, it ended. It ended on a little bit of controversy, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

But yeah, been disgusting. I mean, Rile Riley O'Brien. I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

I'm not huge on like I mean, a bunch of the these are just kind of the top save guys in the league.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Uh there's not really a huge and then let's go to strikeouts. Jacob Mizarowski. I love watching him. Dude just threw like 104 the other day against uh uh Spencer Jones.

SPEAKER_00 38:31

Like first AB you're seeing 104.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

Yeah, I mean, dude's leading the league by by or by uh with 70 K's with the next person being Dylan C 66. So I mean Jacob Mazarowski having a 245 ERA, a lot better start to him because last year, I mean, he threw like he's the king of throwing balls down the middle and just having to and just giving a bomb sometimes. But I mean, he's been great this year. 245 ERA, first and K's, nine uh point nine five whip. I think I think that's phenomenal to have a young guy.

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Yeah, and you know, our boy Sanchez is in the three spot for K's with 60. Yeah, heck to see it. Love him tied with Gavin Williams, and of course, Cam's in the five spot.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

Yeah, same old list, and then quality starts. I love quality starts, like I think it's a very good statistic. Christopher Sanchez, I think last year was like leading the league in quality starts forever. I think he did lead the league and I I forget what he ended with, but he was leading the league in quality starts forever. But Chris Sale being number one, not surprised. Dude goes long, long innings a lot, goes into games very long and really been very good this year. And then Michael Watcha. Very interesting that he's on this.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

He's been good. He's really been good.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

Yeah, 263 ERA, 4-4, not bad.

SPEAKER_00 40:01

Then I'm confused in the hold on, I want to backtrack for a second to ERA. Because does Shohei not have the minimum innings needed?

unknown 40:11

What?

SPEAKER_00 40:11

Shohi's fifth. Uh Shohi has a.97 ERA.

SPEAKER_01 40:18

He probably doesn't have the minimum then.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

He must not have the minimum innings because his ERA is sub one.

SPEAKER_01 40:24

How do you check his pitching stats? I don't know how to see it.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

He's not on the list. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 40:32

Yeah, he does have a point. Oh, he he only dude, uh, he only has 37. I think you need more than 37. It's probably like minimum 40. It's probably like minimum 40, if I'm being honest. Right now, it's probably well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

I think I think you have to have an inning pitch for every game played.

SPEAKER_01 40:49

Uh makes sense, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:50

Maybe I might have made that up. Don't don't come at me.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Yeah, I have no idea. I have zero clue, right? But I mean, Mitch Keller on the Pittsburgh Pirates. With a 4-1. I mean, Skeens has not been skiing this year. Like shirts, he's I mean, yeah, he went up to a very rough start. I remember seeing him his first outing gave up a couple runs to the I think it was the Mets. But Mitch Keller, I mean, 4-1, 2-8-7 ERA, 35Ks, one 104 whip. Great, great.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

There's gotta be some minimum innings requirement because Justin Robleski has a 1-2-5 for the Dodgers as well. In 36 innings as a starter. So there's gotta it's gotta be like an inning for every game played or something. There has to be a minimum. Because we're only at we're 40 games into the season, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:49

I mean, I don't know. Interesting to say the least.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

There has to be some oh to qualify a player must have at least one inning pitch per team game. There it goes, right on ESPN. We just have to read.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Interesting. So so wait, Shoei could very well be the new leader after.

SPEAKER_00 42:10

Shoe after his next start could go to number one.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

I don't know when he's scheduled to pick pitch next, but he's on very limited, like, I don't think he's pitching that often, but I mean he's obvious he's obviously not pitching that often.

SPEAKER_00 42:22

Yeah, he's disgusting when he is, but but Robleski's supposed to throw tomorrow, so he could lead. He could lead after tomorrow's game if he throws well. Otani's next game is supposed to be May 12th, which is in three games.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

Yo, yo, right now. Just a quick question. Don't look at your phone. What do you think? Who's the team with the most pitching strikeouts? Like the pitchers with strikeouts. Who do you think?

SPEAKER_00 42:50

Um probably the uh I want to say Yankees, but not even in the top five.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

Really? Have another guess. Go.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Um, I mean, I guess I feel like I should go with the team that has Mizorowski is the Brewers up there.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

The Phillies.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

They're number one.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Are number one with 373. And then the Mets are second.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

I mean, the Phillies do strike out a bunch of guys, but yeah, I didn't know they would be first, though.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Yeah, pitching leaders, and then yeah, they're first. It goes Phillies, Mets, Guardians, Pitts or Pittsburgh, and then the Astros. I'm as surprised as you are right now, dude.

SPEAKER_00 43:36

Wow, that is very surprising.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

I mean, our guys do K a lot of guys, so I mean it's still surprising, though.

SPEAKER_00 43:45

We're first in strikeouts by 12, and we are we're bottom bottom five in ERA. It's either a strikeout or a bomb. You know who's leading? I switched over to Team stats. Do you know who's leading an average?

SPEAKER_01 44:08

Probably the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Yeah. Do you know what their average is?

SPEAKER_01 44:12

I'm I have it pulled up, but I uh my guess was Dodgers either way, but I know it. I know what it is.

SPEAKER_00 44:18

Their average is 277. 271. That's terrible. Why are teams not hitting well at all?

SPEAKER_01 44:24

I mean, as an whoa, as a team average, that's pretty good. I mean, I would say as a team average, that is good. A 271 team average, dude. That's disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 44:34

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

Yes, as a team average, that is disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

I just want to go back to where guys were hitting for average and not just the home run was everything. But yeah, but that's how you win.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

That's how you win a lot of games.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

I'm just outdated.

SPEAKER_01 44:50

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 44:52

But I mean, well, you know, that's those are that's what's going on around the league. Those are the guys to keep an eye on. Um, I mean, obviously, we'll keep you guys updated as the season goes on with everything that's happening, but it is definitely an interesting season. Definitely different than what a lot of people expected.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Yes, very unpredictable right now.

SPEAKER_00 45:14

I mean, that's fun though. When things are expected, that's fun. So we'll keep an eye out. We'll keep you guys updated. It's always GoFillies, and we'll see you guys next episode.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Yep. See ya.